Comments for Mwenda on Obama: Old wine in new bottles at http://independent.co.ug , comment 1 to 72 out of 20 comments http://independent.co.ug Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:50:33 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-28162 nothing new about the ills of Africa. Nonetheless,[url=http://www.u99snowboots.com/]ugg boots[/url] it is important that world leaders keep reminding us of our predicaments. - christian louboutin Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:13:05 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-27047 Ma anger was flamed further by a proffesor who sought it better to print out copies of Obama's speech and distribute them to students as if this was the best speech he has ever come across, all in the name of solidarity? 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I think the problem was the choice of the country where he visited and thats why most africans were disappointed on this Visit. i have to say he a gave a right speech in a wrong place with a wrong crowd. Standing in Ghana to me means isolating the suffering Zimbabweans and ethiopians and happy but not free south africans and most african countries. He seems to tell Leaders alone and abondoning the citizens everywhere that its our duty to change the world we leave in. He could have gone to Zimbabwe and speak about human rights, corruption and democracy coz the message would be sent directly into the ears of Desports like Uncle Rob. rhinoz99@yahoo.com - kayari Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:42:39 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16494 In most African countries, leaders play an important role in making them what they are, something Mr MWenda is deliberating disregarding because he prefers to look at things in his own way from others. Rwanda, mentioned as an example of African countries with good health sector and praises showered on the country by Mwenda every now and then is simply a good example of good leadership, corruption free political actors and nationalistic feelings. - Adnan Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:32:51 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16484 I think it does not matter whether it was the former or the later, the most important is the content and fro me it was full and overloaded with substance for all African leaders both in government. business and private sector to learn. I am not sure if Andrew either just lacked clear judgment this time or desire to balance it out. Our problem is purely leadership, for the same reason it is only the leadership that has answers to African problems period. not the west not Obama not even Andrew. - Josh Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:26:05 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16483 Independent paper is no longer independent. Period! The other day the owner of the so call Indenpendent paper was seen putting a hat on the head of Uganda Swine. I have lost confidence in reading Mwenda's paper. Tell Uganadans how much you have been bought. - Natasha Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:57:33 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16474 Mr. Mwenda, President Obama speaks of Africa in Total Knowledge and experience, and, yes, Leadership is a core challenge to Africa. This is also a good time for African Leaders to listen to one of their own and receive constructive critism, however diplomatic the rhetoric. Everything rises and falls with leadership. Ask J.C. Maxwell. Mother Africa has everything but Leadership for development to take effect. If excellent leaders were to be added to Africa's resources and potential, there is no limit to what we can achieve. Bravo to President Kagame of Rwanda, for he has made significant achievements because he is pragmatic on priorities, insists on value-based accountability, and has little torelance if any, for corruption. This is notwithstanding the need for him to step up efforts on post-genocide reconciliation so as to ensure long term sustenance of peace and the ongoing economic progress in the country. Now for mother Africa, when you add the vice of corruption to the leadership gap that gives birth to it, you get poverty, conflicts, inefficient healthcare and education systems, broken infrastructure, etc, a cycle that is iterative in nature. Leadership Development and good governance, therefore, must be top priorities for mother Africa and those that are true Friends of Africa. May God bless Africa and provide/annoint the necessary leaders for her transformation. - John B Habu-Mugisha Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:34:12 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16464 As for those pple who think andrew is over praising Rwanda , you just have issues . They say the truth hurts, just because u don,t anything to show in 23years is not mwendas problem. you have been sleeping for the 23years ,so get up and do something for the country.Kagame is really ashaming you guys. Even a blind person can see who has a brain and who hasn,t. so you have wasted enough of our money and time. We want real action. - mary Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:42:11 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16463 hey guys africa is for all africans ,and at the end of the day africans need to solve their own problems. stop electing corrupt leaders. And as for WOO and the RETIRED GEN you have no right what so ever to tell mwenda to move to Rwanda. if you cann't stand the fire leave the kitchen pple. ANDREW HAS A RIGHT TO EXPRESS HIS VIEWS, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM, TRY ANOTHER MAGAZINE. ITS THAT SIMPLE WOO AND THE SO CALLED RETIRED GEN OKAY. You can intimidate pple in uganda , but u cannt do it on the internet its 2009 and they world is changing faster than u thought. - rita Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:29:48 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16462 "NOT so very long ago, the earth numbered two thousand million inhabitants: five hundred million men, and one thousand five hundred million natives. The former had the Word; the others had the use of it. Between the two there were hired kinglets, overlords and a bourgeoisie, sham from beginning to end, which served as go-betweens. In the colonies the truth stood naked, but the citizens of the mother country preferred it with clothes on: the native had to love them, something in the way mothers are loved. The European élite undertook to manufacture a native élite. They picked out promising adolescents; they branded them, as with a red-hot iron, with the principles of western culture, they stuffed their mouths full with high-sounding phrases, grand glutinous words that stuck to the teeth. After a short stay in the mother country they were sent home, whitewashed. These walking lies had nothing left to say to their brothers; they only echoed. From Paris, from London, from Amsterdam we would utter the words ‘Parthenon! Brotherhood!’ and somewhere in Africa or Asia lips would open ... thenon! ... therhood!’ It was the golden age. It came to an end; the mouths opened by themselves; the yellow and black voices still spoke of our humanism but only to reproach us with our inhumanity. We listened without displeasure to these polite statements of resentment, at first with proud amazement. What? They are able to talk by themselves? Just look at what we have made of them! We did not doubt but that they would accept our ideals, since they accused us of not being faithful to them. Then, indeed, Europe could believe in her mission; she had hellenized the Asians; she had created a new breed, the Graeco-Latin Negroes. We might add, quite between ourselves, as men of the world: ‘After all, let them bawl their heads off, it relieves their feelings; dogs that bark don’t bite.’ A new generation came on the scene, which changed the issue. With unbelievable patience, its writers and poets tried to explain to us that our values and the true facts of their lives did not hang together, and that they could neither reject them completely nor yet assimilate them. By and large, what they were saying was this: ‘You are making us into monstrosities; your humanism claims we are at one with the rest of humanity but your racist methods set us apart.’ Very much at our ease, we listened to them all; colonial administrators are not paid to read Hegel, and for that matter they do not read much of him, but they do not need a philosopher to tell them that uneasy consciences are caught up in their own contradictions. They will not get anywhere; so, let us perpetuate their discomfort; nothing will come of it but talk. If they were, the experts told us, asking for anything at all precise in their wailing, it would be integration. Of course, there is no question of granting that; the system, which depends on over-exploitation, as you know, would be ruined. But it’s enough to hold the carrot in front of their noses, they’ll gallop all right. As to a revolt, we need not worry at all; what native in his senses would go off to massacre the fair sons of Europe simply to become European as they are? In short, we encouraged these disconsolate spirits and thought it not a bad idea for once to award the Prix Goncourt to a Negro. That was before ’39." Part of the Preface to Frantz Fanon's Wreteched Of the Earth by Satre (1961). Not a bad article Mwenda, but your Rwanda seems to be out of this world. Can you truly be a journalist and activist with an objective sense? - Allan Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:32:19 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16461 Andrew Mwenda, Obama ment that Africa needs good leadership like the one you praise in Rwanda.The other form of change which you suggest can only be achieved if people like you go to villages,educate and empower villagers .People being ignorant about their rights is the desease that need to cured! - Ambrose Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:22:33 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16458 That's why corruption is hard fight in Africa and if people received what they deserve interms of salaries rewarded, hopefully those corruption cases would have been few or out - Othman Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:46:21 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16457 All the points made in this article score 100% But you should not forget that most African leaders share a peasantry origin and that alone makes them think that every gold & glory should reign within their families. Unless we get leaders with Rich souls, I see no way forward otherthan chaos in Africa - Othman Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:40:16 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16454 Like i said earlier, we deserve our leaders and it is upon us to chnage them. But first we must cgnage the way we think because our leaders are are reflection of ourselves. You go to the lower admin levels in our countries. whether a district is led by DP, NRM, etc, the ciorruption issues are the same. So fundamentally our thinking is the same. - emma Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:26:20 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16453 Hmm... @ those who r stressed by Mwenda's praises to Mr. Kagame; U guys try to read various media gurus esp. Africans like Dan Makokera, Onyango obbo, RIP Taju's comments on Kagame, am sure u will concede and if u want, go Rwanda for yo personal information. many guys have appreciated even the son of Mzee Kaguta, Tony Blair, Media mogul Murdoch and the list is endless. But try to read more about what Kagame is doing anyway, YKM who not always seem to thumb up for his protegees like Kagame himself has conseded. Kagame is at his prime boom so ur negativism just chill and relax it if u want to prove pop to A country of thousand hills, U shall ha ha, i tell u. the Man is at his rampage form as in Political leadership. Cool ye!!! - Gakiire Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:21:46 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16452 Yes i concur with mwenda, Obama cant save you work harder for youselves.you lazy Africa ns!! - opolot Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:11:52 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16451 please !! please!! the so called enlightened africans who went to school to show up how u are smart , clever , good english speaking & wring. come-on its time to start discussing issues to help africa's development, ideals that construct us in blackmans land, not critising HE kagame and his nation,people & development of rwanda,please Mwenda never hide da trueth even if people say what or which,so long as they are developing africa,my idea is that we need to start from grassroots wiz dev'pnt ,where our leader shouldn't rise their arms to where they can't touch see, here imean lets manage well what we have ie taxes, corruption ,miss manegment of offices,our resources should be sold to da apropriate contractors wiz strings attached. u can see how india came to competetive ,world just recently after ww11 we wa at da same level with it now u can see da distance from India -africa.am sorry for those who take them selves as educated and start critising .all thanks to mwenda and concerned africans like him. - emmanuel mugisha Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:41:24 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16449 Woo, People like you and the Retired Gen - PGB in next article below are clearly NRM servants no doubt. You do not like the fact that Rwanda under Kagame has put to utter shame your leader's leadership style and achievements in half the time NRM has been in power. NRM also looted in Kisangani and the UN report is there to prove this. What did they do with the loot except to enrich individuals in the army who were named in the report. I can only presume that the loot by Rwanda was used for selfless purposes given what the leadership is doing for its citezens compared to the sorry state of affairs in Uganda after 23 years of NRM. I suppose you one of those very few chosen people who travel abroad for treatment (let alone president's inners circle who use presidential jet to even deliver babies abroad)because of Uganda's poor health infrastructure after 23 years!! Mr Mwenda please keep citing the good things happening in Rwanda as many times as you can and hopefully the only man with a 'vision' for Uganda will blink! - Michael Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:21:46 +0100 http://independent.co.ug/index.php/component/content/106-myblog/1259-mwenda-on-obama-old-wine-in-new-bottles#comment-16447 non-existent for our citizens leave alone the terribble imitation of roads and demoralisation of ugandans. - godfriend muta Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:10:23 +0100