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đź”´ Anthony Natif notes from Court: Uganda Vs Molly Katanga and Others 17/October/2024

Court in session in the Katanga case.  The accused (including Molly Katanga on Zoom in background) are represented by MacDusman Kabega (left), SC Peter Kabatsi, Elison Karuhanga, Jet Tumwebaze and Hannat Nabaggala.  PHOTO BY NATIF

Defense pins prosecutor on prison visit

SPECIAL REPORT | ANTHONY NATIF | As recorded in court, in the case Uganda Vs Molly Katanga and Others  17/Oct/2024 via @TonyNatif

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Proceedings

11:20 am: Judge enters. All stand.
Samali Wakholi, for the prosecution stands up and surveys court.

Representation is the same, save for Jonathan Muwaganya who would join later in the afternoon.

The accused are represented by SC Peter Kabatsi, MacDusman Kabega, Elison Karuhanga, Jet Tumwebaze and Hannat Nabaggala.

Witness PW9, Naome Nyangweso is on the stand. The accused are in court.

A1, Molly Katanga is in Luzira prison. She’s appearing via Zoom, her image beamed on a screen behind the judge. She’s wearing a white blouse and her usual white head gear. She keeps her gaze down for the most part.

Judge clears his throat and delves into his ruling on whether to admit the defense’s documents including a court order that they served on Kigo Prisons to access the visitor logs for one of their clients, Mr George Amanyire, while he was on remand there. Judge agrees with the defense and admits all documents.

Counsel Jet Tumwebaze stands up to submit the documents.
“I hereby admit these as defense exhibits and hereby mark them (he goes ahead to mark them D: E 11, 12, 13)”

SC MacDusman Kabega stands up and looks side to side. He is doing today’s cross examination.

Time: 11:30.
Judge says I hope you’ll be able to utilize today. 

Kabega: My Lord, I’ll utilize only today. Ploughs straight ahead..

  • Kabega: Naome, I want to be brief with you and to save time, simply answer my questions yes or no.
  • Naome: Yes, my lord.
  • K: You recall in your evidence that Henry informed you that he needed to meet his lawyer to make a will because his life was in danger. You recall that?
  • Naome: Witness shakes her head.
  • Kabega: don’t shake your head. Answer, please.
  • Naome says in English: “I’m waiting for her to translate.”
    Translator translates to Runyankore.
    Naome answers; yes, my Lord (in English)
  • K: When did he tell you?
    N: Towards Patricia’s wedding.
  • K: About how long before the wedding?
    N: About a week before.
  • K: That was October 2023?
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: would it surprise you….let me put it this way: I want to suggest to you that Henry actually never told you so.
    N: He told me, my Lord.
  • K: He could not have told you because he had already made a will. Does that surprise you?
    N: He hadn’t yet made it, my Lord.
  • K: My Lord, can the prosecution avail the witness the statement of Mr Mugabe Ronald, PW6?
    Judge: Has it been admitted?
  • K: No, my Lord, they have it. I want them to avail it and we proceed.

The court orderly passes her the statement

  • Kabega: Can you look at that statement?
    Do you know Mugabe Ronald Ruranga?
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: That’s the statement he made at police on 26/Nov/2023. Look at it, don’t put it away. Can you read the first paragraph.
    N: My Lord I request you read it yourself.
  • Kabega reads: “I’m a lawyer by profession and I work with Agaba and co. advocates. I’ve known Katanga for more than twenty years. I was his lawyer and personal friend. We’ve done a lot of things together and some were his instructions. I knew him as a right handed person on all habits. of recent, he was operated on in India over a hip and was doing well.. Katanga had 2 since lines: 0701abcdef and 0776uvwxyz
    It was early 2018, I assisted him to make a will. He took it but he never returned it.”
  • Kabega: I want to suggest to you, Naome, that infact Henry had already made a will and it is a lie for you to say that in October 2023, he needed to see a lawyer to make a will. (page 4 of the statement)

N: My Lord it’s true he told me he wanted to make a will.

  • K: Were you, since you claim that you knew him very well, aware that he had made a will in 2018?
    N: No, my Lord.
  • K: So if you didn’t know about the will he made in 2018, I’m suggesting to you that you were not as close to Henry as you claim.
    N: My Lord we were together and close.
  • K: To your knowledge, people only make wills when they’re in danger?
    N: I don’t know my Lord.
  • K: Have you made one yourself?
    N: My Lord it’s private.
  • Judge: surely she can’t tell us about her will. That’s personal.
  • K: Naome, you also claim in your evidence that when you asked Henry why A1 wanted to kill him, that he told you that the lawyer would tell you when you meet with him on Thursday the following week. Do you recall that?
    N: I haven’t understood well.
  • Kabega repeats the question.
    N: it’s not the lawyer that told me, it was Henry.
  • K: The qstn is: it was your evidence that you asked Henry why A1 wanted to kill him and that Henry told you that the lawyer would tell you when you meet Thursday next week.
    N: It was Henry to tell me, not the lawyer.
  • K: Did you know the lawyer you were to meet. Who was it?
    N: they were two lawyers; Counsel Agaba and Counsel Mugabe.
  • K: you never met them, did you?
    N: No, my Lord coz that’s the day he died.
  • K: Would you be surprised to know that the lawyer (PW6) didn’t know why Henry was looking for him?
    N: I can’t know because it was a private matter btn him and his lawyers.
  • K: Now, you also told this court that Henry informed you that A1 and a big group which was dangerous were after him. Do you recall that evidence?
    N: Yes, my Lord. He didn’t say a big group, he said a gang.
  • K: did you know the people in that gang?
    N: He never told me who they were.
  • K: Did Henry ever talk to you at the wedding of the daughter whether you sat with any of the members of that gang?
    N: My Lord I was sitting with my mother and not any other person.
  • K: At Patricia’s wedding, did you sit with a one Kabananukye?
    N: Yes. She’s my cousin sister.
  • K: and it is true, is it not that on 5th Nov, 2023 at the parallel burial you made a speech that you had sat next to Ms Kabananukye
    N: yes, my Lord.
  • K: and in your speech, you stated that Henry asked you why you sat with and why you were talking what you were talking with Kabananukye.
    N: it’s not true, my Lord.
  • K: it is true, is it not that the people you were sitting with at the wedding were the dangerous gang.
    N: My Lord I don’t remember such a thing.
  • K: yesterday you admitted that at the wedding, there were many photographers and they took photos. I want you to have a look at this photograph….Passes over a photo.
    Wakholi asks for a copy.
  • Kabega: it’s that one.
  • Kabega to Naome: do you recognize that photograph? Do you appear in that photograph?
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • Can you turn it around and show court where you appear?
    N: She points to herself.
    Judge: “I appear here, she showed court.”
  • K: who is the lady on your right?
    N: Proscovia Kabananukye
  • K: What about the lady on your left?
    N: Kukunda. She’s Kukunda
  • K: The other name?
    N: Stella
  • K: what about the lady in blue?
    N: I don’t remember
  • K: What about the lady on the right?
    N: Lydia Kabirizi.
  • K: What about the one before the last one? Before Lydia…
    N: I don’t remember her name.
  • K: You know that the lady you picked first, Kabananukye is a maternal cousin of Henry?
    N: yes, my Lord.
  • K: And Lydia Kabirisi is a paternal cousin of Henry?
    N: Yes, my Lord.
    Judge sips on drink covered in a kakhi envelope.
  • K: What about Carol Kilaka
    Judge: is she in the photo?
    Naome looks at the pic and agrees.
  • K: Carol is the paternal cousin of Henry Katanga.
    N: yes, my Lord.
  • K: so if Henry indicated to you that this is the dangerous gang and these were his cousins and sisters…
    Naome answers mid question: I don’t remember him telling me that.
  • K: I want to suggest to you that actually, Henry Katanga was unnecessarily paranoid.
    N: My Lord never. It never happened. He had a lot of peace. He was a man of peace.
  • K: did Henry ever reveal to you the names of the alleged dangerous ones?
    N: He never told me the names.
  • K: did you try to find out who the people in the gang were?
    N: I did.
  • K: so, what were the names of the people in the gang.
    N: My Lord, I can’t say them.
  • K: Naome you need to know that this is court. I want to suggest to you that this gang is a fallacy of yours.
    N: not true, my Lord…
  • K: should I ask his lordship to write that you’ve refused to mention the names of the gang?
    N: that was private, I cannot say it.
  • K: we are talking about a group that wanted to do away with your brother. Why do you protect them?
    N: because he’s now gone, it doesn’t help me.
  • Judge repeats: “he has died and it’s of no consequence.” Scribbles.
  • Rutoro translator starts translating. Court orderly picks the pictures from the witness stand and takes them back to Kabega.
  • K: remember you told this court that you made three statements. D8, 9 and 10.
    They hand her statements. I want you to take a look at your statements
    I want you to look at the one of 2nd Nov
    In that statement, did you mention anywhere that you knew the names of the dangerous gang?
    N: No, my Lord.
  • K: in that statement, did you write down the names of the dangerous gang?
    K: Did you mention anywhere that Henry told you of the dangerous gang?
    N: No, my Lord.
  • K: What about the one of 15/Nov/2023?
    N: No, my Lord.
  • K: What about the last statement of 8/Jan/2024, did you ever mention the dangerous gang or their names?
    K: Now, in your first statement of 2nd Nov, what names did you give?
    N: Naome Nyangweso
  • K: what about the one of 15/Nov/2023?
    N: Naome Nyangweso.
  • K: and you put the signature of Natukunda.
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: and in the last statement, what names did you use?
    N: Naome Natukunda Nyangweso.
  • K: Now, do I take it that in 2023, you’re Naome Nyangweso and in 2024, you’re Naome Natukunda Nyangweso.
    N: My three names. Yes.
    Judge asks: all the time?
    N: yes, those are my three names. She repeats them.
    Judge writes.
  • K: Naome, you remember telling this court that on Nov 15 2023, police searched your safe at banana bar?
    N: it’s banana restaurant. Yes, my Lord.
  • K: that is the safe which had the documents of Henry Katanga.
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: before the search, you’d attended the search at Henry Katanga’s office in 3rd Nov 2023. Is that so?
    N: I think so. It’s true.
    Judge asks: that was on 3rd?
  • K: and after that search at the office of Henry Katanga, you informed this court that you signed a search certificate.
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: now, in this search at Banana restaurant, who were the police officers that conducted the search.
    N: My Lord, I don’t know them. They showed me their identification and they were from Jinja road police station.
  • K: you opened the safe for them.
    N: yes, my lord coz I had the key.
  • K: They took out all the documents that were in the safe, did they?
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: they made a list of whatever they found in the safe, did they?
    N: yes, my lord.
  • K: there was cash in that safe, correct?
    N: No, my Lord. There was no cash in the one he gave me.
  • K: There was a notebook.
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: There were land titles
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: Some of the titles were in the names of Henry Katanga and his wife. Others were in the names of his wife
    N: I didn’t bother scrutinizing.
    Judge says: “to see in whose names the titles were, she didn’t check.”
  • K: After the police had made a list of all things they found in the safe, they entered it in the search certificate?
    N: yes, my Lord.
  • K: and you signed that search certificate to confirm.
    N: yes my lord.
  • K: you can produce those documents to court.
    N: I don’t have them now but I have them.
  • K: can you procure them?
    N: Not now. I don’t have them here.
    Judge asks: can you produce them?
    N: I have to find out from my lawyers.
    My lord I can’t say yes or no, I have to find out from my lawyer.
    Judge asks: before I produce them?
    N:Yes, my Lord
  • K: My Lord, the prosecution never revealed them to us. My Lord that’s why I’m making an application to order her to produce them.
    Judge: what exactly do you want? He scribbles.
  • K: My Lord, all the documents from the search at Banana of the safe which she’s keeping.
  • Wakholi: My Lord, I find the application outrageous bcz this is not a trial relating to the administration of an estate and if the documents were given to her in trust, it’s only proper that they’re produced before a court that is handling the estate of the deceased in an administration cause. My Lord, we are handling a murder trial with clear ingredients and the properties of the deceased have nothing to do with this trial. Be it as it may, under what law is Counsel making the application to compel her to produce documents that aren’t even hers but given in trust? My Lord we find this as just a tactic to delay this trial and we are at pains that one witness should be cross examined several times over this. We pray the application is rejected and that the witness is cross examined in substance.
  • K: My Lord, I’m not aware that Naome is the administrator of the estate or beneficiary of Katanga so as to keep the documents away from court. My Lord, it was evidence in Chief, as my learned sister was leading Naome, that the deceased bought a safe with her, put in documents and the safe was taken to her residence. All this is evidence in Chief. My Lord, my learned sister led her and she said police went, searched the safe. The documents were listed and photographed. That was evidence in chief, my Lord. Now why is my learned sister gagging court not to have these documents. My Lord, let her produce the documents.
    Judge: why?
  • K: Evidence of credibility. They might not exist.
    N: My Lord, may I speak?
    Judge: question remains, can you show court those documents?
    N: I’ll consult my lawyer.
    Judge says: my lawyer is this one. Points to Wakholi.
  • Wakholi: My Lord, I’m handling a murder trial and I think it’s her right to refuse to provide the documents.
    Judge: I don’t see the use of those documents so I can’t make that ruling.
  • K: Naome you know that Henry was a moneylender.
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K:That notebook might be having names of people whom Henry Katanga had lent money. Even in evidence in chief, she said so.
  • K:There might also be land titles of people that Henry Katanga lent money to and they deposited titles as security. Yes?
    N:I think they’re there but they’ll be sorted when the time comes.
  • K:You’re also aware that Henry Katanga and his dear wife had many properties in their joint names. Are you aware?
    N: I don’t know. I’m not aware.
    Kabega picks up papers and motions to the court orderly. Orderly takes the document to Naome.
  • K: take a look at that foment and tell court what it is. Can you look at the first page? what is that document?
    N: let him read it.
  • K: Does it say registration of titles act, plot 54 below the word district.
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: does it also show the leasehold volumes number?
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K:What is the folio number?
    N: 20.
  • K: it is a transfer of land.
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: The land was being transferred from Isaac Ssemuwemba into the joint names of Henry Katanga and Molly Katanga.
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: Can you go to the next page?
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: You can confirm that that is a transfer of another piece of land?
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: it’s plot 50
    N: You read it
  • K: read it, you’re the witness.
    N: read it. I can’t see very well.
    Kabega reads.
    N: yes, my Lord it is.
  • K: Land at Mbuya, seller was Alice Zawedde Lubega; transferred into the joint names of Molly Katanga and Nolly Katanga.
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: can we go to the next one?
    Judge: is there another one?
  • K: yes, my lord. It is a condominium property. It was transferred from NHCC into the joint names of Molly Katanga and Henry Katanga.
  • K: Next one. Is it a transfer also?
    N: Yes, my Lord.
    What is the plot number?
    N: it’s not clear
  • K: is it plot 18?
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: LRV342
    Judge: is that so?
    N: yes, my Lord.
  • K: Folio 3?
    N: folio 5
  • K: It is from Stella Karuhanga into the joint names of agents Katanga and Molly Katanga
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: can we go to the next page?
    N: yes, my Lord.
  • K: It’s also a transfer in respect of plot 4-12. The land was transferred from Jukus Construction ltd to the joint names of Molly and Henry Katanga
  • K: Naome, I want to suggest to you that your assertion that Molly wanted to kill Henry is false.
  • N: It’s true
  • K: These people were living happily. That’s why they kept having all their properties in their joint names.
    Judge looks at her: any answer to that?
    N: that one I don’t know.
    Judge: whether they were living peacefully?
    N: I don’t know, my Lord.
  • K: if Henry had any idea that the wife was planning to kill him, he would never have had all these properties in their joint names.
    N: that one, I don’t know.
  • K: And I want to also suggest to you that even the titles that you have in your possession are in the joint names of Henry Katanga and Molly Katanga
    N: I don’t know.
  • K: and you recall that it is your evidence that Henry told you that if people hate you, they should not eat your things.
    N: yes.
    K: Henry has never told you that.
    N: it’s true he told me.
  • K: You claim to have been a close confidant of Henry. Did you have any properties with him?
    N: I only have with my husband.
    Judge means back in his chair. Says to Kabega, “we should stretch up to 2, after that, the cross examination should be over.”
  • K: I want to suggest to you that the reason you’re keeping the titles is you want the estate of Katanga. You want to grab their land. That’s why you’re scheming to make A1 remain in prison so that you can push through your scheme of grabbing their land.
    N: Not true, my Lord.
  • K: Now it is your evidence, after learning of the death of Henry Katanga, you went to his home in Mbuya
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: that you found several senior army officers and senior police officers.
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: that you were allowed to go to the master bedroom where the body of Henry Katanga was lying.
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: You saw a lot of blood on the floor, walls, doors
    N: My Lord, it’s not true. I didn’t see blood.
  • K: It is your evidence Naome that you went to the mortuary following the police vehicle which picked the body.
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • K: The body was in the police vehicle.
    N: I don’t remember well. Looked like an ambulance. The body was in an ambulance.
    Judge asks: of police or…?
    N: I don’t know but it was an ambulance.
  • K: you went there according to your evidence with Junior Taremwa.
    N: yes, my Lord.
  • K: who is Junior Taremwa?
    N: My late sister’s son.
  • K: so, you were two?
    N: no, we were four but only two entered and one remained outside.
  • K: Did you identify the body to the Doctor who did the PM?
    N: no, my Lord.
  • K: do you know who identified the body to the Doctor who did the PM?
    N: No, my Lord.
  • K: My Lord we are praying that the photographs which Naome identified be admitted.
    Judge: they’re four photos?
  • K: Yes, my Lord.
  • Wakholi: my Lord, we object to the tendering of these pictures. They were not processed by this witness. Also, the source isn’t from this witness. Merely appearing in the pictures doesn’t make her a competent witness through whom the pictures can be rendered and we pray that they’re not accepted for the court record. The rules for rendering photographic evidence is clear. It has to go through the photographer, the camera used
  • K: My Lord, Naome accepted that this is her in the picture. She also stated where she was and where they were taken from. She has not denied. My Lord they’re admissible under rule 25G of the constitutional exhibit management practice directions.
  • Elison: reads. Exhibits may be tendered by any person with sufficient knowledge of the exhibit.
    Judge asks prosecution: if these pictures are tendered, what is the problem?
  • Wakholi: if anything was at liberty to come to the court record as exhibit then we would have courtrooms filled with alleged exhibits.
    Judge: let’s talk about this one.
    This witness isn’t a photographer, she doesn’t know the source.
  • Kabega: what’s she doing is improper. She’s implying
    Judge: I’m the one who told her. She has leave.
  • Counsel Kabega finishes his cross examination.
  • Wakholi: My Lord we only need an hour to cross examine. We want to discharge her to go and do other things. Ruling after lunch then she re-examines. She will have one hour as said.
  • Time: 13:49 pm.
  • 3:16 pm. Back to Court. Muwaganya is back. He’s slapping hands with defense attorneys and laughing. Mwesigwa Rukutana pulls him outside for a brief chat.
  • 3:20pm: Judge returns. All stand. Case is called. Judge immediately starts scribbling. He’s shaking his head while at it.
  • Then reads a short ruling: The applicants have not demonstrated the importance of the photographs therefore they won’t be admitted as defense exhibits. Both sets of Lawyers stand and bow in unison. “Much obliged.”
  • Wakholi stands. My Lord I have a few questions to ask the witness in re-examination.
  • My Lord, for the record we’ve been joined by Jonathan Muwaganya for the prosecution.
  • W: Miss Naome, I’d want you to offer us a few clarifications for the things that came up during cross examination.
  • Counsel asked you a question as to why you refer to Arthur Katanga as your father. I want you to clarify as to why you refer to him as your father.
    N: Arthur Katanga is the one who raised me because he was my paternal uncle. We were 9 children. I was the 5th. After the death of my father when I was 3 years old, Arthur Katanga raised me.
  • W: Just for clarity, do you have any interest in the property of Arthur Katanga.
    N: No, my Lord I have no interest.
  • W: do you have any interest in the property of the Late Henry Katanga?
    N: No, my Lord.
  • W: why aren’t you interested?
    N: the things he left me, I don’t want them but also of all the things he left me, nothing says they’re mine.
  • W: you were also asked questions about the things that were in your statement at police and the things that you didn’t include. Is everything you told police included in your statement?
    N: Not all that I told them was included in the statements and other things I didn’t tell them (in Runyankore). Translator says only part of the statement. Leaves out the rest. The two sets of lawyers argue.
  • W: Clarify your number. What was the private line you were using to communicate with Henry?
    N: the private line is 0771cvgtrey.
    Kabega: this line has never appeared in her evidence in Chief. That’s something new, it’s not a clarification.
  • W: my lord, I don’t know what is troubling my colleagues because my witness didn’t get time to confirm with her phone but these numbers came up during cross examination by Jet.
    Kabatsi: My Lord with great respect, the numbers that came up during the trial are known and are before court. This is reopening the examination in Chief.
  • W: You also gave us a number: 0781vhytrx —-whose number was that?
  • Judge to Wakholi: this isn’t the first time you’re having trouble with numbers. I’ve noted it.
  • W: I would also want to know if you had any bad relationship btn you and your nieces
    N: we have a good relationship
  • Elison: My Lord that is also a new matter. The question asked during cross examination was whether she was the Ssenga or not.
  • W: is it true that your brother fired you from playing the role of paternal auntie to Patricia (A2)?
    N: No, he didn’t fire me. I gave a speech and they gave me gifts.
    Judge: the issue isn’t whether you gave a speech and they gave you gifts. Were you fired or not?
  • W: Clarify if you were fired or not
    N: they didn’t fire me. I gave a speech. There’s no way I was fired. Even Tricia, I’m the one who gave her that name when she was born. There’s no way you can fire blood. Blood is thicker.
  • W: You were given call logs to see the times your brother used to call you.
    N: My Lord, I don’t know what you’re talking about.
  • W: Also you were asked about information you’d got from your brother that he was being tracked by A1 and also the fact that A1 was dangerous and they asked you whether you reported this case to police or not and you said you didn’t. Why?
  • N: when Henry told me, he asked me not to tell anyone else. He told me to wait for us to first go to the lawyer. He didn’t know that death was close.
  • W: You were also asked whether you confronted A1 and why. I’d like for you to clarify why you didn’t.
    N: My Lord you can’t tell an enemy about the secrets of your brother. My brother had told me about her being dangerous and I couldn’t go to tell her.
  • W: you also organized a parallel function in Kashari the time your brother was being buried. Tell us, was this a parallel burial?
    N: My mother being 94 years old couldn’t travel so we had to organize and pray from home.
  • W: why didn’t you attend your brother’s burial.
    N: I had to attend to my mother and the people that were coming home for prayer. I couldn’t travel.
  • W: you were asked about the speech you gave at the event where you spoke nicely about Patricia. You said you spoke from the bottom of your heart. What about the things you said about Molly.
  • N: for Patricia, I spoke from the heart. For Molly, I spoke like an in-law. You can’t say what you truly feel. We can’t wash our dirty linen in public.
  • W: You were asked about the wounds the deceased had. We’d like for you to clarify why you thought the deceased had two wounds.
    Kabega: that is going beyond the boundaries of re-examination.
  • W: My Lord it’s not up to Counsel to determine what is ambiguous and what isn’t.
  • K: My Lord, this is not a question of belief. Her testimony was there was a wound on the head and thigh.
  • Jet: the question was do you still stand by your belief that there were wounds in the head and thigh? Her answer was yes.
    N: my Lord there was blood on the thigh and I thought it was a wound and two wounds on the head.
  • W: Miss Naome, forget about the disruption. Counsel said that those statements you made were meant to concoct evidence against Molly. Was that the case?
    N: No, my Lord.
    Wakholi asks for the documents that were tendered in today by the defense.
  • W: Looking at this document, a copy of the visitor’s book. Is there anywhere where it says you’d gone to see Amanyire?
    N: there’s nowhere it is indicated that I’d gone to see Amanyire.
  • W: I also want you to look at another attachment. Does it show that you’d gone to see Amanyire?
    N: No, my Lord.
  • W: what is indicated as the purpose of the visit?
    N: Official.
  • W: I want you to look at the photographs. It was put to you that you were demonstrating. First of all, do you know the source of these pictures?
    N: No, my Lord.
    Judge asks: were you demonstrating?
    N: No, I wasn’t demonstrating. I was asking for justice. Madam was in hospital, surrounded by military. I also was asking for justice.
  • W: I want you to clarify on why you were asking for justice.
  • N: I was asking for justice because A1 was in hospital, surrounded by military personnel. They couldn’t allow police to take statements from A1. I had no choice but to also go and ask for justice. I was asking for justice, not demonstrating.
  • W: This is about what you talked to Amanyure about in Kigo
    N: in Kigo, I’d gone to see a friend then I saw Amanyire and spoke to him. Amanyire told me that they locked him up for nothing. He told me: “I’m suffering yet Madam is the one who killed my boss.”
    Judge: is that what he told you at Kigo?
    N: Yes, my Lord.
  • W: when he told you that, what was your response?
  • Naome: I told him to tell the authorities because it was beyond me. When I left, I went to the DPP and told them what he had told me.
  • W: Counsel put it to you that you coerced him. Did you coerce him to say anything?
    N: No, my Lord.
  • W: Did your brother tell you the names of the dangerous gang?
    N: My brother was to tell me the names on Thursday and he was killed before.
  • W: My Lord, that’s all.
    Time: 16:24
  • Rutooro translator takes over.
  • Time: 16:31
  • Prosecutor Samali Wakholi stands up and says: My Lord we are asking for a short adjournment. My Lord we have court of appeal sessions both in Kampala and Gulu where we’ve been assigned cases. We are constrained because of other court matters.
    SC Kabatsi: My Lord we wouldn’t object to their request but this case is being prosecuted as if the accused is a free person. The prosecution has never said that she’s a flight risk or that she will interfere with the due process of the trial of this case. He then goes ahead to ask that she’s given bail.Judge: Put in an applicationCase adjourned to 5th November 2024 at 10 am.Bangs the table. All stand and bow.Judge walks out and lawyers get into conversation

 

 

 

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